Monday, February 27

Jazzy explains the external call of God

I have recently found some very dedicated Christian bloggers who differ in Christian doctrine from this blog. I would like to make a point in interpreting Scripture or anything else for that matter. It is easy for all of us to look at a Bible verse and read meaning into it that is not there. There are many passages such as the well-known John 3:16 verse that give the external call of God (See Photo Meditations 13 and 14 for more on the external and internal call). This verse is often used to refute the reformed doctrine of election. In reality, John 3:16 says nothing about man’s ability to respond to this call. If you said for example: Texaco so appreciates it’s customers world wide that everyone who comes in for gasoline in the next two hours will get a free gallon. Does this mean that 100% of the people with vehicles on the planet has the ability to respond to the offer? (Obviously not) One rule of Biblical interpretation is to let Scripture interpret Scripture. Logic alone is enough to see that the John 3:16 text does not speak to ability. However, for further verification we can look at the many passages where Jesus speaks of having ears to hear and eyes to see and how some have calloused hearts and cannot hear. John 3:16 is a sincere external call that God makes to everyone but it does not speak to the ability to respond.


right wing Gene said...

30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Acts 16:30-31.
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Romans 10:9

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved:Romans 10:13

The key word is whosoever

"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."
God dose not want any to go to hell.

The following verses taken in hole and in context shows that is of ones freewill.
" And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." John 3:14-18

jazzycat said...

Hi right wing gene,
I really like your site. I will give it a closer look later.

These verses you quoted are good examples of the external call of God. The Photo Mediatation on external call gives more detail. None of these verses speak to a sinners ability to respond. They simply give the call which is the way God has chosen to reach sinners.

On the verse that starts, "The lord is not slack....." This is verse is 2 Peter 3:9 and in 2 Peter 1:1 we learn that this Epsitle was written to believers that received faith. It was written to believers.

I think we must also consider the difference in God's preceptive and decretive will in Bible study. The 10 commandments would be an example of his preceptive will and the atonement of Jesus Christ would be an example of his decretive will. His preceptive will can be vilolated but his decretive will comes to pass 100% of the time.

We do agree that all that come to him in faith will be saved.

Thanks for you comment and I will check out your site soon.